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Various Homemade Vaporizers? HELP.

Discussion in 'DIY and Homemade' started by dontkillthedj, Jun 21, 2011.

  1. I have been researching for weeks to try and make a homemade vaporizer. this a bit of a long post, so hang with me. i want to get into a little project of making a quality homemade vaporizer. money isn't a huge issue but i would like to do it reasonably cheap. right now i am trying to decide what style of vaporizer is going to yield the best results.

    I have seen threads about homemade vaporizers made out of light bulbs and i do not like the concept of using a lighter to vape material. i am tossing around ideas for some homemade vaporizers and trying to get some feedback to work off of.

    -I have seen a homemade vaporizer that had a battery that heated a zinc wire to temp and used the heat to vaporize ground herb in the chamber. this piece was by far the nicest homemade vape and very effective. any info on this type would be great.

    -there is a type of smoking device that is a red-hot rod that you plug in to the wall that i have smoked with and got extremely high with. i HAVE NO IDEA what this was called and i can not find info about it online. never seen one since, but you could burn away a whole bowl in one heavy hit of smoke so thick it was yellow.

    -is it possible to turn a portable heat torch into a vaporizer and are there any reccomended brands to use for this? a digital heat guage would be great but i can't find the accuracy i want in a heat gun.

    Any info or advice is greatly appreciated.
     
  2. the answer to your third question its a soldering iron
     
  3. i wish it were that simple but a soldering iron just doesn't get as hot as this tool did, it fully heated to something like a thousand degrees and got glowing red hot. i've never seen anything like it and i've seen alot of soldering irons.
     
  4. What type of vape do you want and what's the max you want to spend? I can probably help you a bit if I know those things.
     
  5. Yo listen man, this is what yagottado.
    1. Find the wick of a firecracker
    a. If the wick is attached to a firecracker; continue.
    b. If the wick is not attached to a firecracker; repeat step 1
    2. Wrap the materials gathered in step 1 and the desired herb to be vaped together in aluminum foil
    3. Hold the foil "joint" (if you will) in your mouth
    4. Hold lighter onto foil until the contents catch fire
    5. Enjoy the burning sensation of the firecracker exploding
    6. I don't know why I did this...
    {ocho} <- spanish for [8]
     
  6. i'm thinking somewhere in the range of $40 all together.

    i have a whole box of fireworks. if this worked, i'd be vaping like craaaaazy.

    all right here we go, i like this design, i feel like it's something i can work with if i find a good enough heat source, might not use a soldering iron.
     
  7. You need to figure out what type of vaporizer you want to make first. I am going to quote some wiki here..

    "Broadly, vaporizers may be classified by how they heat the substance:

    By thermal conduction
    By convection
    By thermal radiation

    In conduction heating, the substance is placed on a metal plate that is then heated to release the active constituents. Conduction vaporizers were the first type to appear on the market, and are still in production.

    In convection heating, the substance never touches a heating element. Instead, hot air passes through it, heating it rapidly, and allowing the release of the active constituents. This method of heating releases more active constituents than conduction heating.

    In radiation heating, the substance absorbs radiant energy and its temperature rises. The energy can be provided by a superheated thermal mass placed around it, or from a visible bright light source like the sun."


    What you ideally want, is CONVECTION heating. You want to draw hot air through the material, heating it uniformly, and at a steady controllable temperature.

    The first thing that comes to mind, is to use nichrome wire (the heating element in a toaster, heat gun, etc. etc.) wrapped around a copper tube, then use a variable voltage controller to control the temperature of the nichrome. Recycling a variable heat gun would give you both ingredients...

    Then somehow draw air through that heated tube and your smoking material...and into your lungs..

    You could also do away with the voltage control, and control your heat by placing the material to be vaporized further away from the heated tube.

    Again, these are just ideas i think will work, I've never seen or tested this in any way, just trying to brainstorm...

    If you want to just go with thermal conduction, you should reconsider.
     
  8. this is absolutely true, i was thinking of making a couple of alterations to this design. if i do wind up going with this, i will definitely use different ideas.

    1. making space between the heat point and the herb, probably by suspending a screen above the heating element.

    2. a fully wooden base instead of PVC, i dont like the idea of something that heats up and that i breathe in to be near PVC.

    no temp. dial, i want it to work without having to adjust the temp.
     
  9. i was messing around with some batteries and screens trying to recreate what the 'magic flight launch box' does. it's pretty genius, but all it does is pass electricity through a piece of metal to heat up the air and passes over the herb to your mouth. i think i can absolutely create something like this, but now that my mind is going, i want to create all kinds of designs!
     

  10. mflb actually heats the bud directly. conduction rather than convection, works well though. If you want to make a convection vape you need to have the air source behind the bud so hot air can pass through it. Here check out this pic of my silver surfer:

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    The arrow points to the air intake; air passes over the heating element and then through the bud.
     

  11. any ideas what i can use to create a heating element like that? i want to know what they are or how i can design one.
     
  12. I was looking for a similar heating wire, to make a small battery operated fireball shooter. I needed something small, and able to ignite flash cotton with a battery, instantly.

    I found that gas powered RC model cars use tiny glow plugs in their engines. These glow plugs are cheap, and about 2-3cm long. When connected to a AA battery, the wire filament on the end instantly glows red hot.

    It may not be a viable option for a large vaporizer, but i could see it being a useful start for designing your own portable vape.
     

  13. that's a ceramic heating element. i don't know anything about the manufacturing process, but I imagine the element is injection molded and then baked in a kiln at a few thousand degrees. if you know a lot about thermal conductivity and electricity you might be able to make a crude version, but i wouldn't count on it. also there's a lot more to a vape than just hooking the heating element to a power source; when i get home i'll post a few pics of my old easy vape and you'll see how much circuitry they have
     
  14. this is from my ez vape, something that supposedly had heat control:

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    lot of circuitry there. so my suggestion for building your own is to buy a ground glass heater cover (check out ssv covers) and a soldering iron that can hold a steady temp. build something to house the vape in-wood is probably best, and attach the soldering iron. experiment with raising or lowering the heater cover to find the best vaping temp.
     

  15. i am really leaning away from the soldering iron design. i think it has some insurmountable flaws.

    what i was tossing around with a friend today is the idea of using a mesh screen as the heating element, we found that when you pass electricity diagonally across a screen it heats up because the screen acts as a resistor... now that screen can be used for conduction heating, but that isn't the goal when vaping. if that same screen is positioned inside of a tube so that air passes through the mesh of the screen, it would heat up the air as it passes through, then all i would need is a glass whip and a downstem to do convection heating which is optimal.


    i actually made an ultra mini vape yesterday in about 5 minutes using a paper clip, a mesh screen, tape and a AA battery. i need to read up on some electrical stuff before i try and make one that doesn't require batteries but that is possibly my ultimate goal.

    i hit a grain of hash with this crude vape and it worked like a champ.
     

  16. this glow plug idea is interesting, i think i might try out something using one of these...
     

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