This is starting to get silly guys. You can't just state things as fact all willy nilly unless you KNOW you're right. I happen to have shipped off that EXACT stock ROOR slide with a genuine tube purchased from 42 Degrees a month or so ago. It's a real ROOR slide... PERIOD. Ask Reelconnoisseur... he can take a pic and show it to you if you still don't believe me.
Alright sorry dude, was just my input. To be honest it was kinda tough to call it. There's only two pictures and the picture of the actual bong itself isn't very detailed, it barely even shows the signature. From how I have been informed I feel like what I stated was fact. The slide piece and the downstem are very different from most roors, most legitmate roors do not even come stock with a diffuser anyway. I'm not trying to get into anything over this, I was simply just replying to the roor that was posted. If I am incorrect that is fine with me. I didn't know that legitimate roor slides like that existed.
This thread is kinda pointless, you do understand how easy it is to duplicate a label 100% and a glass tube right? Ya inferior craftsmanship can be spotted on some products.. but This is the 21st century folks.. to believe a glass tube with a label cant be duplicated 100% is like.. just wow.. lol not to smart. The human race is currently unraveling the mysterious of space and DNA.. CLONING... like CRAZY SHIT!! Glass tubes with labels? Get real people.
You just made all that up in your head. Get real dude. Nobody has exactly replicated a ROOR tube because they're all slightly different. That is what a lot of people here fail to realize and why it is possible to identify them from fakes. Just like real signatures, glass ones are always identifiable by 1) the artist and 2) An eye that has seen the real thing again.... and again... and again. When we wrote these guidelines we never intended them to be hard and fast rules but somehow people have managed to take them as such. I don't really even like being known as that dude who IDs ROORs cause they're no bigger to me than anyone else. I just can't stand seeing people being told their shit is fake when its not. I'm not trying to step on toes.. but I know you must get how annoying it becomes to see people claim with certainty something I know is 100% not true. People could say something like, "I know I've never seen that ROOR slide before." But to say you know they've never made it you have to really know. That only comes from observation over time personally or compiled by a group. I know I've seen hundreds of ROORs and accesories simply because I have a glass obsession. I wanted to help people here because the climate for glassheads here isn't like TC or GD. There quite a few members have been in the game long enough to literally see every ROOR item ever. We don't have that luxury here. This is the best I can do... I knew that yellow tube was real immediately by the sig. I've seen it before.. it's unique and it's perfectly executed. Even if another artist got good enough at copying the sig, I would've already seen his previous failed attempts and learned his unique style too. Exact replication just isn't possible to make profitable anyway. If they could 100% replicate a ROOR it would be costing them far more than would make any economic sense. At that point, knocking off a popular brand and wholesaling at cheaper prices would COST money dude. That's obvious. Finally... it's clear that we need more pics of confirmed genuine ROOR items to check against instead of just pointing out fake clues. We should aim for all unique ROOR items ever... and fall short somewhere around most.
Some peoples intelligence baffles me..I used to work at a head shop here in so cal back in the german roor, jerome baker, HVY, Chong, dominated days. Glass is so cheap... not make a profit? Its marked up like 1000% HA.. and again Its just glass its not rocket science. NOT DIFFICULT to replicate. If you think it is... I'm scared for you and you should never reproduce.
Yes... my intelligence is baffling. I know... I've been told since I was 3 years old. Thanks. Glass markup averages 100% not 1000%. Please stop making stuff up. Please get out of this thread... you have nothing of value to contribute. -rep. Oops... apparently I need to spread it around before taking it from you again. Didn't even know I already did. You must talk out your ass often. And for the record... there are individuals in every artistic trade who can identify fake works from real ones. No matter how good the replicators get they can never use another person's muscle memory to create a work... so they can never make perfect copies. It's just not possible.... and again it's the opposite of profitable.
Those lips are all on the thin side... but again nothing ROOR hasn't done before. I wouldn't sign a bill of authenticity for a tube I saw on the internet.... but nothing about them allows me to tell you that they are fake. I believe they are real. However, I wouldn't encourage you to buy them if the retailer isn't authorized. Besides, the prices are absurd if they're all 3.2mm like the yellow one.
if you buy a fake roor from the shop, is there anything you can do? i mean, are they likely to give you your money back if you confront them about selling fakes?
Those are pretty typical prices for ROOR 3.2. I've paid $150 for an Green label ROOR 3.2 straight. I've also paid $95 for one.
wait to me those roors up there look fake... the lip is thin as fuck, i have not seen any roors with an ice pinch that is directly in front of the joint, and they are not penetrating in far enough, they look very fake to me EDIT: the base also looks really thin, and i have seen about 5 or 6 fakes with a similiar sig. i could be mistaken however. also i have found that the best way to find real roor, is by what else the shop sells. if its only crappy ass chinese imports, and a shelf of roor's, then they are prob fakes. however if they have other brands like toro, sheldon black ESPECIALLY, illy, etc. then they are real.
