I'm not sure what is going on. A vape pen attached to a water pipe works well, but I wanted a larger hit. So, I bought what I thought would be a nicer experience, and they tiniest hit I can take, with it set on the coldest temperature and it roasts my throat. One thing is it could be terpenes that I'm reacting to. I'm trying expensive and high terpene rosin and a similarly expensive vape cartridge is also difficult for me to hit. Another thing is that my tolerance for breathing hot vapor is increasing. I'm not sure that is good. If I don't cough, usually the tingling in my throat will go away. So, maybe all of the people not mentioning coughing with respect to the puffco peak, were people who've learned to tolerate hotter vapor. It still makes me wonder. Why don't people describe how hot the vapor is. It's only a problem for me? I would think it would be the main selling point of a dab device.
I think the terpenes are what I'm reacting to. I got an RSO and I can use the device. I'm also wondering if the sensation I think is my throat burning is something else. Chemical burning, as opposed to heat burning. Is it ok to learn to tolerate the sensation in your throat?
I had a horrible thought. What if mint oil were added or something that numbs the throat... The question remains if the vapor is injuring me or not.
Using an RSO, drawing lightly and just not coughing seems to be working pretty well. I'm worried it's not good to become accustomed to throat burning.
??????????????????? Pretty much all concentrates vaporize at the same temps.... no matter who's vaporizers you use. I have about 20 or more vaporizers . I don't see how your saying its harsh ? its going through a bubblier.
The vapor is around 500 degrees, then passes though a tiny amount of water. It might be hot enough to be painfully hot once it hits your thoat, or it's terpenes etc. burning chemically. I see videos of people coughing all the time, using various devices. I'm not the only person.
The lowest temperature is 450 degrees F. This suggests using much lower temperature: Vaping Temperature Chart: The Complete Guide - Honest Marijuana I wonder what device supports a temperature that low.
Never tried to turn the heat much lower then 170 C,, 180 C is 354 F. Both the volcano and the mighty you can adjust the temps. both are actually by design dry herb vaporizers but I load the hell out of them with weed and concentrates Man I have a shit ton of the lookah products .. like 10 of the ice cream cones and again i load them with weed and concentrates . And i have 6 or 7 of the Lookah Seahorse Max's Lookah sea horse max - Search Videos (bing.com) All of mine work good, I am not a fan of the coils ,, If you buy let me know so i can guild you on which coils to buy .. which are only the lookah V glass coils .. This the best deal on a wax carver I have found Lookah Seahorse MAX 950mAh Vaporizer Kit $84.95 (elementvape.com)
It would be nice if it said what the temperature range is. Thanks. I'll look out for low temperature vaporizers. A volcano would be great but it's expensive, and noisy, and I think it would make too strong of an odor. With a volcano, I would use 2 bags. Inhale from one and exhale into the other. Not only was the smoke cooled down, most of it I could take outside and release. I can't do that in my current living situation.
Cannabis Vaporizing 101: What Temperature Is Best? By M. Carroll on August 9, 2023Cannabis 101 Favorite Article What’s the best temp for vaping? Depends on whom you ask. Chances are, if directions came with your vaporizer, the manual recommends a range between 392° and 380°F (200° - 250°C). What’s behind that guideline? And, how do you control it? The better question might be “What temperature is best for you?” What’s behind the temperature guideline? Dr. Ian Mitchell of the University of British Columbia sets the range lower: 347° - 392°F (175° – 200°C). Dr. Amo Hazekamp at the Netherlands Bedrocan BV says, “In general, I would say 210°C is the best balance between efficient evaporation of terpenes and cannabinoids and smoothness of the vapor.” The guideline temperature debates a range based on some assumptions: How moist, dry, or fine your grind is. The sort of vape you are looking for. The type of vaporizer you use. Hazekamp’s research shows that you are inhaling terpenes at low temperatures, but that means you experience milder high. On the other hand, the higher temperatures produce more potent THC effects. Because temperatures above 455°F (235°C) will burn harshly, you can conclude the lower temperatures are safer than the higher numbers. If this sounds confusing, you should know that there is an optimal temperature for each of the major cannabinoids and terpenoids. Without going into that, you must remember that vaporizers bring the marijuana to a “boil” where the cannabinoids evaporate leaving behind the plant debris. This is a different experience than smoking a joint and, perhaps, a more effective experience for those seeking a high, medicating health problems, or weaning off cigarettes. For starters, the smoke from any joint contains toxic elements like ammonia, benzene, carbon monoxide, formaldehyde, naphthalene, and tar. But, vaping improves the experience because it does not burn up the cannabinoids and contains no debris. Why does temperature matter? Different components of marijuana vaporize at different temperatures. You’ll miss the high if the temperature is too low, and you produce unwanted elements when you burn too hot. Researchers at Steep Hills labs determined the following boiling points for cannabinoids: THC = 157°C/315°F induces euphoria and psychoactive effects. CBD = 180°C/356°F relaxes and relieves pain. CBN = 185°C/365°F sedates and provides anti-emetic and anticonvulsant remedies. CBC = 220°C/428°F reduces tumors and inflammation and exceeds CBD for mitigating anxiety and stress. CBG = 52°C/126°F and stimulates bone growth and brain cells. The same testing produced numbers on terpenes: Pinene = 155°C/311°F has anti-inflammatory powers that expand the bronchial airways. Limonene = 176°C/349°F treats acid reflux and fungus. Myrcene = 168°C/334°F unlocks the power of THC and delivers anti-inflammatory, anti-tumor, and anti-spasticity effects. Beta-caryophyllene = 160°C/320°F fights anxiety, bacteria, fungal infections, inflammation, sepsis, and tumors. Linalool = 198°C/388°F aids in sleeping, treating psychosis, and reducing anxiety. How do you control temperature? Controlling the temperature depends on your specific vaporizer. But, if it comes with a Temperature Control (TC), you can set the maximum coil temperature you want. When the vaporizer gets to that temperature, it will limit or stop the heating. Regardless how you vape, the TC will fix the temperature. Temperature Control once cost you, but it now comes on most quality vapers. You adjust the TC mode according to the metal in your vaporizer’s coil, preferably a Titanium coil. Ironically, the TC does not actually measure the temperature. But, it does recognize the level of resistance in the coil metal. With the coil installed tightly in the tank, you set the wattage control (if you have one) to 30W. Then, you set the temperature and start vaping. Older vaporizers relied on voltage or wattage control. For example, the e-cigarette lets you adjust the voltage and wattage that powers the device. It helps you choose the amount of vapor produced and the hit you want. Some flavors taste better at low temperature and others at high temperature. In time, you should be able to settle on a personal preference, and the voltage and wattage controls assure the battery will hit that mark each time you vape. Your Temperature Control will prevent dry hits because it keeps the coil under the coil metal’s limit. So, it stretches the life of the coil and battery. Still, TC is not for everyone. It’s a little complicated and may not produce the desired smoke volume. What temperature is right for you? Of course, this depends on your taste and expectations. But, if you consider the possibilities, here are some general guidelines based on Christopher Teague’s work for Herb. 320°F = Mellow feel-good high: You get the deep lung refreshment and flavor of pinene, the relaxation and spicy notes of beta-caryophyllene, and all that THC. 365°F = Intense energetic high: As you start vaping myrcene, your THC high will skyrocket. Limonene will increase THC absorption in the mouth and mucous membranes of the lungs and sinus. If your strain has lots of CBN, the intensity will balance into a lasting cerebral euphoria. 428°F = Deep body relaxation high: CBC and linalool knock you back, a couch-locking Indica experience best suited for deep pain relief. When you come right down to it, if you are vaping, you will find your own best temperature. It will be a trial and error “journey.” One smoker likes this strain or that strain. Another smoker prefers THC to CBD high or vice versa. It’s pretty much the same with vaping. If you are new to it, you can talk to friends or check with your budtender. But, if you invest in a quality vaporizer with a Temperature Control feature, you should be able to narrow in on the temperature best for the device, the strain, the smoke, and the effect.
It seems like I can't vape dry herb because of the odor and the topic of this thread is a vaporizer for concentrates. The lowest temperature available is hotter than the hottest temperature in that guide. So, I wonder if you could put the ceramic cup of the puffco peak inside a dry herb vaporizer, in order to vape at s lower temperature.
Science of vaping marijuana oil & concentrates | Leafly All this info is on line Google it........ The temp depends on the concentrate . and what euphoric effect you want and taste... lower temps have the best taste ................................................. I set the Might for 175 C for dry herb/concentrate cocktail. I vape from a 1/2 gram to a gram or more per day of concentrates.. this is not new to me ...
I have not yet found anyone saying what the problem is. Is it heat? Is it a chemical reaction? If heat is the problem, why are the concentrate vaporizers all so hot? When I was a kid, you would be laughed at if you coughed. So, maybe everyone is pretending the vapor doesn't hurt. An option, if heat is the problem, apparently is a $400 USD dry herb vaporizer and applying concentrate to dry herb. But, I think I can't vape dry herb. Would it work to set the ceramic concentrate cup down into a the compartment of a dry herb vaporizer and would the lower temperature make the difference?
It seems like I found a solution. I got a cup vaporizer "zenco flow". It has an air pump like the volcano, and it fills a cup with vapor. You then "drink" the vapor. I don't know what the temperatures are (why don't manufacturers give this), but I can wait for the vapor to cool.
