That's an argument of semantics. Everyone in here knows exactly what mechanism of the helix I am referring to when I say the 'vortex'. Yes I'm aware that actually calling it a vortex belongs to another product. I'm not calling it a helix to avoid stoner-confusion between brand-name Helix and brand-name Helix's component helix. It doesn't? Are you claiming that cooling by expansion (or in the cases of the helix's body, rapid expansion in the first bulb-section of the body, followed by slight compression out the mouthpiece.) does not happen period with the shape of the Helix? Because I'm fairly sure it does. As effectively as your design would cool via that method without the ports? No, but it's still there. Unless you've someway discovered how to prevent a gas from cooling via expansion in such a tiny bit of glass. In which case, kudos to you on that technology! Already familiar with them all. I'm still on the forum as well, thanks for trying to bribe me 'down' with a pipe via PM? I can be all witty and sarcastic and change tones completely too. Keep in mind being the inventor of a product doesn't mean that you're A) fully aware of every mechanic of the item B) fully inclined to full-disclosure. I mean, if I wanted to know what car was best, I certainly wouldn't be asking Ford or Chevy to tell me. Since we're throwing about links and what not; Urban Dictionary: fronting ________________________________ Edit: y'know, in the interest of full disclosure, here's the first paragraph of his first PM to me, as well as the entirety (minus the quoted portion) of the second. Maybe it will make more sense now why I linked to the Urbandictionary page I did. The missing portions are missing due to post length as they're lengthy quotes with responses, but they're mostly unimportant things I've said. Like the guy that mentioned the Helix in my chillum (I believe) thread as a joke.
Oalwe, You might take note from one of the greatest thinkers of our time, who knew when it was time to be quiet and smoke a bowl...
Well boxfan was clearly being very generous with his compliments of your understanding of fluid dynamics. You've shown OBVIOUS confusion of even the most basic elements and apparently he didn't want to insult you. At the heart of the helix is the premise of fusing cooler temperature air, with the hotter, denser oily smoke. Your premise of that you can just finger the carb to mix the two show a complete and utter lack of understanding of what is keeping the two gases separate, and how and why the helix design mixes them. In other words the very basic premise of how it works has gone over your head, which is exactly what I've told you from the beginning of my discussion with you, and ultimately why I quit bothering to argue with you. No amount of science or proof is going to change your mind. Even if you were capable of understanding it you would purposely miss the point to avoid having to admit you are wrong. PS- check any thread. YOU need to have the last word. Not me. I've left that thread and you continued, and I will leave this thread and you will continue. You will respond to this post. I guarantee it.
Lemme know when you want to create your own arguments against me rather than riding on others coattails, qt. You've shown absolutely zero understanding on *anything* you've brought up, and when asked to provide explanation always resort to one of two things; "I'm done talking to you" or "youre younger than me and wouldn't get it anyway because everyone on GC is little kids". My premise is absolutely and utterly correct. Fingering a carb does throttle air into the mixture while not allowing your cherry to burn out. Infusing those bursts of cold air is doing the same thing as the Helix's ports, albeit less evenly and in a less sophisticated manner. It's still very simple physics. The difference is that the vortex simply mixes the two more evenly, whereas the carb method would require extra mouthwork to promote a more even mix of the fluids as coming from the bowl-end of the piece it would be much more an arrangement of air - smoke - air - smoke than a twist of air and smoke. The cooling effect would still occur, however, due to heat transfer. I know very well how and why the Helix does what it does and I've been very thorough about that as well. I've even mentioned unadvertised features of the helix that promote its cooling (that the inventor apparently forgot about...) But you can keep on telling everyone about how its all over *my* head in your vague and cryptic responses that you're specifically tailoring so that I *don't* have an argument of yours to dismantle. That sounds a lot like that time you disappeared from a thread after I posted an interactive diagram to explain a process that you were only vaguely familiar with judging from prior responses. -\__/- You just posted after saying you had already left the discussion before. Hi pot, I'm kettle, nice to meet you again.
Hey boxfan, you mentioned you worked on the typhoon? I'm curious how you think the helix stacks up. I have typhoons in lhs but no helix to compare to. Obviously changeable bowls is a difference, I mean in terms of function and quality.
No, I did not work on the Typhoon. The guy who developed it(owner of Chameleon) is a friend. I gave him one of the first Helix to get his blessing that it was an original design. Proud to say he still uses it, 3 years later...
oalwe can you please stop arguing with boxfan? Physics aside (who cares who's right on here) the guy is an artistic genius and master, and I say that as a blade with no preference for smoking out of a $500 bong over a $25 one. Becoming high and looking through his portfolio of creations is cooler than telling him he doesn't have the right to criticize others in his craft and probably profession. And to Boxfan.. My god man, try to sound professional! Your work merits it.
Thank you for the compliment and the advice. I will take both gracefully. I stick with what I'm good with and get back on the torch.
All bullshit aside. I own 2 Helix tubes (one beaker one bubble), 2 grav lab tubes(one beaker one straight), 1 multipiece set, 2 tasters, and 1 standard built in. And ive tried the Jet-Flashy, and its complete garbage comparatively. And its unfair to compare the two. But i must say i was quite aggravated when i saw the blatant design rip off. Some people just aren't talented enough to come up with their own ideas so they steal others. I also broke one of my pieces for the multipiece set (girlfriend broke it) and was able to get a replacement in 5 days....
How about everyone has a nice cup of stfu and op posts a milkvid already? We didn't come to this thread to learn about fluid dynamics and business strategy.
Jet Flash Smoking System (GP29) - China Glass Bubbler,Glass Pipe,Glass Smoking Pipe in Smoking Set $12 USD for Wholesale Jet Flash.
Given the price difference on this item I can't blame ya, but you shouldn't come on GC and post links to competitors
Competitor? That's what the foreign company that makes Jet-Flash sells them to distributors for. Look at their other products, complete junk.
