Dragon Lite.....another Tincture Thread

Hey Sam, just wanted to wish you well and hope you are back up and running. Just got some material for some attempts. Shake for the simple syrup to see if it works and popcorn for the oral spray. I was hoping to see if slightly medicated had posted anymore about the attempt they made. I did not want to gum up the thread with pointless posts in the middle of a tincture thread. Just like this post. If I get any positive results I will post them in a separate thread. Sorry just sampled the shake, which is half the price, and it is kicking my @ss! No need to reply it seems busy and I am far enough into my understanding to search your threads with confidence. Ok, time to go watch cartoons

 

Just some results, old and new. Depending on how the pic came out, from left to right-potent honey half a teaspoon, ABV honey pain relief, shake coco oil potent, shake honey potent, shake tincture and my new favorite watermelon oral spray.

 

Well, I tried to post some pics but they turned out like the IOWA caucus.

 

I know there are purists who would say one should never mix flower from different strains.
During my searches for the best medicine, be it vape juice or tincture, I have mixed strains and many
times the quality of the product has been better than that of the individual strains. During my research
on this I have discovered that there are so many variables that can affect the characteristics of a specific strain i.e., soil, water, nutrients, outdoor vs. indoor grow, etc., it can difficult to reproduce the same characteristics exactly from the same strain each time that strain is used to produce the medicine. Then, of course, when one throws in the variables existent in the processes used to produce the medicine....
I realize I’m overthinking this but how much emphasis should be placed on not mixing strains?
If the entourage cannabinoids are lost or at least reduced during the extraction process can they be replaced by terpenes? And, if I start with “Blue Widow” and after processing I add strain specific terpenes from “Lemon Haze” will the resulting product have the characteristics of one or the other?
Or both? Neither?

 

So have you found success for your process/production - I have no doubt the stove would work well, would just have to have 100% of your attention to the boil rate. Likely need some on the burner, off the burner cycling so as to keep the boil from becoming too fierce - boil happens easily with the alcohol in it!!

 

PSam, once again thank you for the reply.
Quite by blind luck I have been doing as you suggest and not blending different strains until after the extraction.
Again, by luck, I have only blended strains in my vape juices. I kinda know what’s in there but keeping a log would be very helpful for future experiments. I have several different strains of tincture but I’ve kept each one separated from the others. The only variables in the tincture are bud to alcohol ratio and time/method of condensing.
I’ll try to find those past discussions you mentioned.

 

I did find those posts and some others from that time. I’m finding it so interesting that many of us go down
the same paths at about the same stage of our journey.

 

Uh, where’d everyone go?

 

Ok, just didn’t want to miss anything. LOL

 

I made a thread regarding this but it belongs in here too, I believe.

Ontario, Canada now sells 190proof over the counter. 98$ for 1.14L. No forms to fill out just a slap in the face from the taxes on it. I think it's around $65 in Quebec.

Stuff is called Alcool 94, if you're interested.

Also, p'sam, I made use of your dragon lite video, worked a charm, and you're right it is a bit disconcerting as it goes through the process near the end. Glad I watched first. Great content, thank you. I am about to boil off a couple litres of the stuff now that the test run was a success.


Edit: Adding a quick question. I have a fair bit of 151 to evaporate off. 3 litres. I figure it will take some time which isnt an issue except if its an issue for the potency. Would it be wise to process in smaller batches rather than all at once??

 

Thanks man, appreciate the opinion, I guess surface area is my friend too.

Another quick question: I did 2 batches at 1.5L of 151 each recovered. The first batch I only shook for maybe 3 min and the first of 2 jars squeezed out was very light amber, it darkened up a lot as it drained into a second jar. So, I think that first jar has a lot of room in the booze for more oil to be held.

I've been mulling the idea of using the lighter 700ml as a second wash since its so light. The material is all sitting mostly saturated in my freezer, as is the jar in question.

I don't think I could lose much since the material is already saturated. I will get chlorophyll, clearly, the material has been sitting about 36hrs now.

Thoughts?

More background - I had more material than $$$ for booze (a goodly sized outdoor). Plan was to use as little alcohol as possible for the strongest pull I can get, even if that meant just a single wash. So the material was coarsely ground (knowing it would keep more alcohol from me but hoping the concentration of oil makes up for the solvent retained in the material) and packed pretty good in the jar (loosened fine once shaking began).


-Unfortunately I do not have a method to reclaim the $100 Alcool, no, but hopefully it pulled a lot of the good stuff. I did the pull this morning and holy shit the liquid is really really dark. 5min shake and I can't see my hand on the other side of the jar even after filtering husks!

 

A picture is worth 1000 words, right?

Comparison by LaunchpadMcQuack posted Feb 25, 2020 at 11:00 AM

Left jar is the 190 - single wash, 5min shake.
Middle jar is 151 - single five minute shake.
Right jar is 151 - single 3min shake *this is the first 700ml from this jar; the other 700ml that took longer to squeeze out by maybe 5 more minutes came out looking exactly like the middle jar. I kept them seperate because of the noticeable difference, and when I ran the second batch a tad longer and got that deep amber color through the whole process I got to thinking maybe the lighter booze could be used as a second wash to pick up more oil.

This is what led me to think 3min was a little too fast to pickup all the oil.. there was ~1/2LB per jar of material.

 

What a mess!

So I was impatient, doesn't happen too often. I took my lb of frozen, damp from the first wash bud and dumped it all in a mixing bowl (gotta wash the kitchen item before SOMEBODY sees; using kitchen tools for science is never a good plan here, especially since I do have my own stuff in the basement). I then dumped the lighter colored jar in, which really only dampened it more, and mixed for about 2min with a spoon. Zero liquid visable.

Then one scoop at a time I squeezed through cheesecloth, followed by a coffee filter strain. Took about an hour to get enough juice out that I lost nothing. Kitchen tables a nightmare. I could have smoked the nitrel gloves, and judging from the amount of oil I see in dried dropped droplets now, compared to ones on my workbench from the other day, which is substantial, I think it was worth my while.