i suppose i could agree with that about how you enjoy it, and with the analogy i was simply showing cars that had the same chassy style but were priced completely different because of the workmanship and quality+added functions. pretty much how two different straight tubes with two percs were compared but one is more priced because of the quality of work put in it. It hits better because the percs are made better thus creating less drag and making your hit more pleasant. kind of like how a more luxury car would have a smoother ride. The brand name tubes are also going to have much stronger joints incase somebody does in fact mess up and tip your tube over. (i've seen too many percs snap off) personally i dont mind spending an extra couple hundred to buy a name that I know for a fact is realiable and i've heard posotive reviews from anyone who has ever smoked out of it.
The thing about your car analogy is that the cars are totally in a different class and price range. Roor vs US tubes isn't. You can PHYSICALLY see and feel the difference with a car. With the bong, There is no way we can think that the same bong made by seperate company with different methods and a bigger price is going to be SOO much better then a us tube or even a home made. Basically as i said earlier. The high is based on how you feel, if you love your homemade/low priced bong. you are going to always have a positive feeling when using it. Same goes with people spending hundreds.
The most popular headshop in my town doesn't sell RooRs, toros, SGs or any high end glass. All they sell is Chinese shit, like your tube.
you are entitled to your opinion and i respect that very much. as for my opinion, i believe that you can actually feel the difference in quality from china glass to roor, not so much from US tubes and roor. it is just an all around more pleasant experience for me. i still smoke out of a bunch of china glass spoons and bongs that my buddies have and i'm down to hit a gravity bong any day, but i really enjoy smoking out of a clean, high quality piece as often as i can. for me its not about loving your piece, i just like to get high and it all does it pretty much the same.
really? says who? it's pretty simple to PHYSICALLY see better designs as compared to poorer designs. it's pretty easy to see crooked upstems, uneven holes/slits, non-uniform glass thickness, poor joint angle and reinforcement, etc. there are a million ways to see which bong will work more effectively, you apparently just don't know them.
Roor and US tubes are both "name brand" quality glass companies, not china glass. There's a huge difference between my WS and EHLE in the way they look, feel, hit, etc. The WS is worse in every way imaginable.
Yes you can see the poorer designs but ON PAPER what exactly do I gain from "all this stuff" By a bong working more effectively what exactly do I gain from its greater effectiveness? 100$ Bong looks alright but works great. 300$ Bong looks amazing and works great.
Earlier we already figured out that the extra cost for a US/Ehle is better compared to a china. (someone said it was a few more $$) So it went from affordable name brands vs expensive "better" name brands.
Better diffusion, smoothness, durability. those are what you're looking for in a water pipe right? so you're 100 dollar bong looks alirght and works alright. it's not working as well as a better engineered piece.
I thought you were done subliminal haha. Just leave it, these kids will obviously never realize the benefits of superior quality. Just let them keep thinking that there china glass is as good as RooR stuff.
haha i want to be. it's one thing to say you don't have the money, you don't want to spend the money, whatever have you. but it's different to just spew things while you're extremely ignorant
I just don't understand how some people think like that. Yes, a homemade will do the job more than efficiently. So will a less expensive dry, grommet tube or cheaper GonG. But to say that the only reason that people buy expensive glass is because the labels make them feel better is just fucking idiotic.
We never said it was as good get it through your head. We are saying the COST for the gain from it is not worth it. Bascially saying they are overpriced. - Subliminal - How can you say we are ignorant? There is a lack of straight forward knowledge. to prove that the gain from it is. But again at the end of it is based on your current situation. Like if I had 2 OZ and 300$ idd go buy a roor. But If i had 450$ and no weed idd go buy a china/us and atleast an Oz. Ironically enough I am going to end up buying a good glass peice this summer. That is why I am argueing so much. I want to make sure it is worth the investment.
Then society is idiotic. Everyone knows people buy expensive labels mainly for the label. We all know how much nikes REALLY cost, and that the wal-mart shoes are made by the same slaves. Edit - Fatcobra give me a reason to buy the roor when my homemade will do the job more efficiently? BECAUSE OF LOOKS AND LABEL?
oh one more thing, first and foremost to me it is glass art, IMO a 500 tube is gonna look way the fuck sicker than a couple plastic bottles and a ratchet with a straw for a downstem.
Yea, that is true. but my bong looks kinda cool . That is the reason i am getting my glass piece in the future I love the artistic side of it.
here you go: you will be getting an overall better (i.e. smooth) smoke. how many times do we have to go over characteristics that enhance this?
to be completely honest i love roors, illadelph and US tubes. My friend owns one of each. But to know that he spent almost $1500 just on "high end" glass and a name brand to me is ridiculous. I get just as high off my friends $50 gong. Thats saying that i could spend $1450 on bud to smoke basically for free compared to my friend who has the high end stuff. This is just me but that is definitely not worth it to give up that much bud, which is why you buy a bong int he first place, just for the high end glass. Besides, after owning a bong for a while your tolerance goes up to it. So why have 3 bongs and no bud when you could buy $1000 worth of bud and get a new bong every month for almost a year. Not doubting the quality of high end tubes at all. Im just saying stop arguing. Think about it. Think if you really NEEED that roor or toro for whatever reason. Then think about at the end of your life, do you really want to look back on it and say, "wow, i spent all my money on bongs." i probably could have bought a car with the money saved if i was a little more creative and made them or just tried a huge variety of headshop glass. I will be buying an Ehle for college. Why? its good quality glass just like everyone here claims to love. And it doesnt cost two to four hundred dollars so i dont need to throw away my education just for a smoking device. So for a bong recommendation like the thread says, buy an Ehle.
Asking questions would have been a nicer way to find out information, arguing made people mad at you haha. But, no one but you will be able to make that choice on if its worth it or not. Experience is what makes that choice easy. There is a reason so many people have these high end bongs and defend them like they are their child. The differences really are there, no one is lying about the quality of these tubes. So all i can say is just go try a few heady tubes and then try some china glass. youll see and feel the difference man, i promise.
