my current bong is a 24 in. 9mm "feuer" brand bong. it has 2 percs, a diffuser downstem, and a sick bowl that packs a gram easily. it is as sturdy and well made as any roor i have seen, and ive seen a few. i bought this for $200 dollars, brand new, at a headshop. if my bong said "roor" or "toro" on it instead of "feuer" it would probably have been upwards of $400 at least. so if ur into paying 200 bucks for different color paint and a slightly different design on the tube, buy a roor or illadelph.
do you know anything about glass? there are several proccesses that the cheaper brands dont put there bongs through which makes them weaker and inferior. and your percs are china. im sorry you dont have any money but you dont need to bitch about it. nobody wants to hear it.
Hahahaha like u know anything about the processes roor puts their glass thru haha please all u know is what roor puts on its website. please, elaborate if ur so knowledgable id like to know. and please don't attribute "bitching" to my posts when i am clearly not "bitching" about anything. im sorry u need a popular brand name to validate ur choice of bong...i bought my bong because i thought it looked sick and would smoke even better-it did, and now i love it like a child. lol now to stay relevant: while roor and illadelph are brands in which high quality is guaranteed, there are plenty of other bongs out there of good quality that will not cost u as much money. im not hating on roors or toros...those things smoke nice and look cool i guess i just think its stupid to spend so much money on a simple label. if u shop around and the only thing u like is a high end name brand, by all means go for it. im just saying one should never buy a bong based on what brand it is.
i had a feuer; 24" with two, 3 arm tree percs. and yes they are china percs, they don't compare to "high-end" lines.
my EHLE was only $60 bucks and its high quilaty. ive never been to roors website but i know they temper their glass the same way EHLE does. im sure your bong does hit nice, i never said it wouldnt. and your the only one here talkin about buying a bong for its label so.....
You're wrong here.. you should always take the brand into consideration. I own a Weedstar and two EHLEs. The price is actually comparable, but the quality definitely isn't. You really don't have to sacrifice quality to get a reasonably priced piece from a good company. When you get tired of hearing your china glass' joints rattle or when it breaks from bumping against your coffee table or chair arm maybe you'll reconsider.
If you're anywhere near Chicago I know there's a few good shops around there. I'd try out Secret's, All About It, or Hippie Lights.
when you buy a piece the only thing you should be looking at is to get the most well made piece you can. roor, toro, SG, etc are the most well made in the game. you pay for quality, not the label, i couldn't care less what my tube said on it as long as it is crafted well. it just so happens that specific brands dominate the tube game in terms of quality.
ok ive never owned a roor, toro or any other high end brand but ive smoked plenty of them, and all bongs (of any brand) smoke the same commensurate to their specs (a 2 perc, diffuser downstem roor will smoke the same as a 2 perc diffuser downstem no-name). which means the only difference between the glass is its propensity to break and its label. logically, this means the only advantages to owning a roor or toro over a feuer, for example, is that the feuer will break easier and that the roor doesnt share a nickname with hitler lol (i.e. brand more popular). I can understand why all u guys like named brand bongs so much: these companies have names to uphold so they need to produce a good, well crafted product. But I'm sorry guys, im careful with my glass and im not willing to spend so much extra money just so that my glass is better tempered and has a more popular label. peace.
i highly doubt the chinese run tests on their bongs, constantly improvinging ke them. roors joint enginering is prob the best in the business. and the difference is that when you shake iso and salt around in the roor the percs wont break. tell me are your percs even welded str8 or are they crooked? you say you have neer owned a high end bong, maybe its time you bought one so you can see the difference. i dont understand how you can talk crap about high end bongs when you yourself have never owned one.
Again, dude, u misunderstand me im not talking any "crap." I think i've given due credit to the named brand bongs where they deserve credit. the quality is top notch, no doubt. ive owned a "middle range" bong for 1.5 years and, having taken good care of it, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. the percs dont rattle and arent crooked; they are intact. oh yea, and i bought a half-o of DANK with the money i saved from buying a feuer instead of a roor.
if this were true nobody would be spending more money on the roor. that wouldn't make sense, just like you say. the thing is, they DO smoke differently, and that's why people pay more. every single perc is handmade and some companies take more time with them and ensure quality, flow, whatever to ensure a high quality product. other companies don't take nearly as much time making a perc and more than likely won't create as well a functioning percolator. other companies get percs imported from china, paying like 10 bucks for a blank. you get what you pay for. you don't get $600 dollar craftmanship for $200
those brands are famous for their quality. thats like saying why buy a BMWwhen you can drive around in a Kia just as easily you want the quality. especially with Toro and SG you wont find quality like that from any other company
i made a home-made bong with 2 percs out of straws and pill bottles. a perc is literally a few pieces of glass with some strategically placed holes in them. not that hard. companies that specialize in glass making are able to make this type of thing without any problem. No, roors are worth so much because of ppl like u who are drawn in by their image and advertisements and then perpetuate that image and assist the advertisers by posting a post very much like the one u just posted on a popular marijuana forum such as this one.
no, you are wrong, i don't want to hear it, if it gets you high it functions the same - no - no - no ya i need to go to sleep lol.
yes. we are all idiots. one day someone decided to make roor and start making the price ridiculously high compared to other products, and all of his customers rolled in because it had a pretty label. that's exactly why we spend our money on this. of course every company can make a perc, no one's arguing that. you're getting something hand-made, if you think every one's going to be exactly the same you're so far from the truth. if you think companies don't get shit imported or don't cut less corners, you're extremely naive.
and if u dont think ur saying exactly what the advertisers of roor want u to think, then ur naive. i'll put it in a simple analogy: nobody is familiar with roor, nobody drops cash on roor. everybody knows roor, ppl spend $$$ on roor. so the idea for the advertisers is to get the roor name out there so that ppl know roor. that way, it has built up a reputation...and all u roor buyers are paying for is that reputation, not far superior quality, like u like to think. you're guaranteed quality with a high end name brand, no question. but the prices they are getting you people to spend on their product is not proportionate to the discrepency in quality between high and mid range glass. after all, its all glass, it all gets u high, and if u tell me a little discrepency in quality is worth $200, then i will tell you that you have smoked urself stupid.
i honestly don't think i've ever seen a roor advertisement that told me anything about the product in my life. i could probably count the number of advertisements i've seen from tube companies on one hand. i don't know about where you get your information from about glass, or how much experience you have with glass, but i get my information from glass blowers i know and talk to, experience with pieces, experiences of other people with pieces, and everyone comes to the same conclusion. the roor smokes better than the phx. do you have an expensive dvd player in your house? TV? playstation? why did you shell out the bucks for those? so i'd love to see some of these advertisements...where are the advertisements for sovereignty? toro? if you want to use you're argument it really loses its applicability when it comes to the other high end tube makers who don't have many if any advertsers. what allows them to charge such high prices?
u go to an online headshop, the roors and other high end pieces are right there on the homepage so that everyone who goes to the site has to at least look at them. i dont know if u have ever taken a comm. class in school or know anything about advertising, but this is a form of advertising. roor, im willing to bet, pays the more popular online headshops to put their glass in a prominent place on the site because this is how a lot of e-advertising works. this, coupled with the "image" of roors, and yes, their high quality, combine to send roor prices thru the roof. yes when buying a roor u are paying for high quality, but u are paying more for the name.
