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Discussion in 'DIY and Homemade' started by Kurt123, Aug 20, 2011.

  1. Gosh.. I hate to sound like a naysayer..
    All I am saying is...
    Why look at a home made LB when I have one (actually many) here at home.
    I might be interested to see something in a new shape, or technology.
     
  2. Jesus christ ...

    Man, continue posting updates, me and several others are definitely intrigued and watching. Even if you burn and fail at least this is interesting to read, versus other bullshit on this forum.

    Just know a lot more people are interested and want to see you push forward then the half dozen or so haters that make it seem like you're an ass. :)
     
  3. #63 lwien, Aug 23, 2011
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    But he didn't even do that. Let's at least see the inside and how the trench is designed. All he showed us what the outside dimensions which I am at a total loss as to why he did that. I have no idea what that proves.


    I want to see him push forward too, and hopefully, my "hater" posts might give him even more motivation to do so.

    Don't you think that he may be putting the cart in front of the horse here?
     
  4. i would love to see some concept images of anything you may have in your head right now. we could provide a lot more helpful suggestion then you may think.

    even the "naysayers".
     
  5. I'm not here to judge, I'm here to observe and give input as I feel is necessary. And my current input is there is a lot of hating by people for no reason. So he asked Magic some question about their design, it's okay to ask questions. Now if he got mad because Magic said no, then I can see your reasoning. But all he did was ask a question.

    You assumed he knew everything about the MFLB, and I don't recall him ever saying he knew everything. If you have nothing more to say at this point besides negative posts, I'd recommend moving on. A moderator has already come in once to tell people to cool it, follow the advice.
     
  6. #66 lwien, Aug 23, 2011
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    MadMike is a moderator (sure would have been nice if there was something under his avy stating as such)? Didn't know that. In that case, I will cool it. Over.........and out.
     
  7. #67 Kurt123, Aug 23, 2011
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    Well, if you insist.

    What I did is I took two pictures and turned them in to one. Saved me the effort of taking another picture. That is a picture of the insides. Only clouded by vapour.

    Heh...

    I didn't want to use up a lot of screen, because I'm running low on it. So I only made the part of the screen that works as the heater. The rest I substituted with plain old clay. It's gotta dry, reapply, until its good when dry. I use it for sealing wooden pipes, usually. But a clay or ceramic type bowl would keep the heat in the bowl, improving battery efficiency. Dontcha think?

    See, then you could use a simple aluminum frame around the bottom and sides. Wood adds bulk because it needs to be thicker due to its lower strength. With an aluminum frame, it's going to last forever.
     

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  8. Kurt123
    Apologies for sarcasm. You go! It is wrong of me or anyone to discourage any type of discovery. Perhaps the title of the thread made me defensive about MFLB's sacred name in our home.
    Good luck, friend!
     
  9. Put up a vid of it in use when you are able to.
     
  10. #70 Kurt123, Aug 25, 2011
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    [ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yyXvgESKB4[/ame] - edit it yourself.

    It works fine, except for the copper wiring conducting too well and heating up the battery to the point where it gets uncomfortably hot, and the clay not being a non-cracking air dry clay. My vapourizer would be able to adjust the screen temperature, not have it based on the internal resistance of the circuit, enabling user control, bitches! Don't let the man tell you what temperature to vapourize at! (jk)

    I get what you guys are trying to tell me. I understand that magic flight put a ton of work in to the design. That's why I bought one. 60 someodd revisions. You'd think that's crazy, but that's how it is. Improvement is a process. I knew there was someone like me behind it when I read "As is so often the case, to make something appear truly simple actually requires a surprising amount of complexity and effort." I understand that complexity too.

    You will have to understand that I am not an ordinary student. I grew up in the era of the internet. At 17, I think, I made a portable super nintendo, hacking circuit boards with a soldering iron. I built a vacuum forming table so i could make a case out of plastic for it.

    I think and I do for fun. I don't watch TV, since everything on it is crap. I watch movies sometimes, but I can tell how they're going to end from the trailers most of the time. Damn movies without any thought put in to them. I don't like to drink, but I do a few times a year socially. But man, oh man, do I LOVE pot. It's a large chunk of what I think about. I got absorbed into pot culture. Last summer I started lampworking (ie. making glass pipes). It costs a lot do get started because you can't sell anything you make until you get good enough at it.

    The summer before that, I built a burner and a forge so I could make knives. And then I made some knives.

    My point is that I have the skills. I also have the ambition, and the resources. I'm not going to sell anything I make by hand. I, too, can model parts on a computer and get them CNC'd for me. Everything would be robot precise.

    You can watch all you'll like, and you will see some failure. But at the end of the design process, which is iterative, you will see a product that has many more design features but is just as easy to use:

    -A pair of LEDs behind a frosted glass square will indicate the temperature of the screen and your battery life by a function of voltage. Not digitally, at least not yet.
    - Toggle On/Off (Does anyone want to hold down a button when you vapourize? If so I will make this optional)
    - Thumbwheel to control temperature through a range of vapourization temperatures (ie You can vapourizer herbs other than pot). The temperature will be limited to just about pot's burning temperature.
    - Minimum 4 bowls per battery/battery pack charge. (Double the Launch Box's battery efficiency)

    -Possible future models might include:
    - the use of microchip technology to create custom output current patterns,
    -temperature sensors,
    - auto-battery-off.
    - Accounts for heating to temperature while inhaling. Air flow cools down the screen. You need to send enough heat energy into the screen to account for the cooling effects of air on the screen. I'll do my best to figure out a way to compensate while inhaling so that you don't have to readjust your temperature, instead it will be auto-adjusting.

    You guy will all love it.
     
  11. Hey buddy, I'm subbing in. Can't wait to see the final product, bring it on home!
     
  12. *Busy Working on it*
     
  13. Keep up the work :)
     
  14. Just subbing to see how this turns out.
    Good luck OP, always gotta praise initiative and ingenuity and I hope your project yields healthy results.
     
  15. if your product is truely superior and most importantly reliable, i'd buy it over a magic lunch box.
     
  16. Subbed. I'm interested in seeing what you can come up with. I don't think it's incredibly difficult to build something similar, but it might take some work to get on par with the LB's efficiency. I like the idea of using aluminum instead of wood, but there better not be any clay in it(?). Well, good luck let's see what ya can do.
     

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