curious, does anyone know what kind of glass Mobius uses. I couldnt find it on A L T. Just curious because i feel like blowing those matrix percs over and over would be a pain/ easy to mess up, so I am curious as to whether the perc itself is made up of prodo glass and not borosilicate
makin perfect sense man, and no disrespect to the bub, it was still very awesome, but I was slightly disappointed after all the "hear-say" I had gotten. I was mostly unimpressed at how few holes were used in the diffusion process when actually taking a hit, but then found out about the stereo matrix perc within minutes of posting in here the first time and noticed that the problem seemed to have been fixed, or at the very least, significantly improved. and perfectly valid point about 2 different points of water diffusion vs. 1. you are very right about that, and it was a damn smooth hit for the volume of the bub I was hitting. I'm just used to hitting my toro/syn with ice cubes and was comparing it to that
Yea I just think that when it comes to the standard matrix's all the holes and the design serves the purpose of looking awesome and being "drag less" (which is like the foundation of Mobius' perc designs). Those extra holes mainly just reduce drag and increase the airflow through the water. Most vids, whether in the bubbler or the bong, really only show the top couple rows of the perc firing so it basically is like a gridded circ when milking. When clearing obviously most of the holes will fire. That SYN and TORO is a nice set up though, definitely will get the job done.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KwitkCrl6A]Mobius Glassworks: Stereo Matrix Dab - YouTube[/ame] Eh looks like almost all the holes are firing. damn massive dab.
Hah wow that was a big dab. I feel like with that much diffusion you would lose a lot of flavor though. Though I guess I can't say until I dab out of one myself.
had one filled up and demonstrated to me at a LHS. As with all multilevel perc designs, including trees, only one row percolates while the hit builds, but when it is fired all the holes percolate. BUT, having all of the holes percolate when you snap the bowl does virtually nothing for your hit, except reduce any drag. Its a very cool design but all of those holes are overkill.
Yea but the overkill is precisely the point. I dig the overkill frankly. Less drag the better IMO. It's not like the tubes with matrix's are noticeably over priced or anything when compared to similar high quality bongs (the way Toro's are). So I don't think its a bad thing. Also, SG's gridded trees usually percolate throughout all the holes even when milking.
youre right. im not disagreeing. just saying, there is a certain point where there is no drag, and it is probably less than the amount of holes the matrix has. it looks beautiful and works very well, but yea Toros are way overpriced, including their micros which i personally think are the biggest ripoffs glass has to offer
Fosho. Wasn't making that comment in an argumentative sense. Just thinking the concept over. Well again, a tube like a Stem 8 (or a netline to tophat, donut to showerhead, etc.) is multi-chambered. Considering the extra level of high quality diffusion as well as simply another level of water for cooling the smoke, I would guess that the stereo matrix with its single chamber might not be as smooth of a hit (maybe the rastamon could comment if he has a Stem 8). But I would hope the stereo matrix could compete with something like an EFS gridded donut or an SG stemline or a similar single chamber stemless. Drag is something I am even more curious about when comparing to these other similar tubes, given the touted "drag less" nature of Mobius percs like the matrix.
Going to take and put up a milk video today of my reti perc dewaar bubbler with and without the inline ash catcher . Stay tuned.
For those worried about the drag on a Matrix I can vouch and say it is almost nonexsistent, I recently just picked up a matrix from my lhs here my thread with more pics and bids if you wanna check it out. But I agree with those above me, the stereo looks like a great price of glass with the dual chamber and the stemless design http://forum.grasscity.com/toking-tools/975380-my-new-mobius-matrix-bub.html
thanks for posting my mobius in the first post man lol heres a vid i made a while back Mobius Matrix Perc Bubbler worked - YouTube
Hey, so I didn't see that anyone had the Reti perc dewaar bub? Here's a phone video of me ripping mine with my friends inline ascatcher on it. Yeah, i know, the glass is dirty. It was spur of the moment, taking clean vids today. Enjoy. http://s1114.photobucket.com/albums/k521/yeahpeen/?action=view¤t=2012-01-05_14-51-58_619.mp4
Clean vids incoming. Mobius Reti perc bubbler milk: Mobius bubbler + Firefly inline ashcatcher: The bubbler itself milks like a champ, and is smooth as can be. However, it can punch you in the throat if your not careful. That zero drag system really gets smoke through the perc and into your lungs. With the inline it just makes it even smoother.
Honestly it's just as smooth as a stem/8, if not smoother. I don't own one but i've had the honor of hitting one once. I guess me only hitting it once I can't give the most accurate answer. But i do own a king stem, and the stereo matrix is definitely a smoother hit on the lungs. You can pretty much milk it as fat as you want lol.
Any idea where to get a stereo matrix around MD? I want one so bad, I've got to check at j.friendlies.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX8eDV1g4kg&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL]Mobius Matrix Perc Bubbler worked - YouTube[/ame]
nice piece but definitely too much water. It will perform better if filled just a bit above the top of the perc
Any more airflow than the size of the intake joint (usually, bongs with bad design will have a area where one of the tubes inside a perc etc. allows less airflow than the joint where you put your slide) is 'unnecessary' because it wont be used. So if a perc has more airflow than the intake joint(definitely the matrix style perc) does it wont function fully. Functioning fully is every single grid firing constantly. Now, I am not saying that the matrix design is structurally flawed, in fact it's pretty awesome. So if your perc has more airflow than an 18mm joint, then every grid will not fire constantly. So I am guessing if the joint was 29mm than the percs would fire A LOT more. But you know what that means? You would probably be choking on bubbles with the current stereo matrix tube, because about half of it fires max, and it stacks to nearly the top of the can... Correct me if I am wrong, but in summation it would be impossible to be able to get every grid firing on a matrix perc through a 18mm intake joint. This is because a matrix perc would let in more air than a 18mm joint, but because the tube has a 18mm intake joint it cannot allow any more air in. Keep in mind that if there is a single part of the tube on the inside that allows less than the amount of air a 18mm joint let's through, then technically you have drag. I hope this post made sense.
