Thought I would show you all my new piece; gridded stem with an inverted perc to natural dome perc. Seems like it would be real nice to use with an oil dome [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv1h1-ZrIOA]Gridded Stem-Inverted Perc-Natural Dome Perc - YouTube[/ame] Got some Close-up vids of the percs: [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cQeGfw68Ns[/ame] [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN6catTPirI[/ame] And with the Purple Days [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2_VyC5cAZc[/ame]
good to see another person that understands that a bong is more than materials its diffusion... and id say your the first [ive seen] to be on par with my homemades, but while your designs are good, i think your lacking a little in execution, hot glue everywhere and all sorts of pieces... check out some of my homemades in some of my threads, id think you could pick up a thing or two id be interesting to toss around some ideas and tips back and forth -gh
[quote name='"Got Homemade"']good to see another person that understands that a bong is more than materials its diffusion... and id say your the first [ive seen] to be on par with my homemades, but while your designs are good, i think your lacking a little in execution, hot glue everywhere and all sorts of pieces... check out some of my homemades in some of my threads, id think you could pick up a thing or two id be interesting to toss around some ideas and tips back and forth -gh[/quote] Aha. Haha. Hahahaha. Really?
every piece you make looks to be made of several different pieces of plastic, from bottles and some tubing it looks like, hot glued together. hot glue on the inside to make your diffusers, seal the stem.... albeit well done hot glue. I undertand how hard it is to do cleanly without shrinking te plastic. Im not knocking your creations... your designs are very efficient at there job, diffusion. However i believe that with a little more planning you can take your creations to the next level of functionality... certain bottles can be compressed together to make a airtight bottle without any adhesion.... large voss's and sobe classic tops medium smartwarters and sobe life water tops large smartwaters and 32oz powerades for example.... Also, check out rubber grommets... they would seal your stems easier. Overall try to make a cleaner more durable piece. like i said im not hating your pieces, just trying to offer some constructive criticism... nor am i in here trolling or broadcasting my creations in your thread
Yes certain things fit together, and if you pay attention to the pieces I make, many of them use this to an advantage. Sure there are several pieces all over, but that's because I want it to follow an exact drawing or idea I had. (I always rough sketch something at the least before I build it). The hot glue would be there regardless of how well they seal, because I always make sure these are 100% water proof and pressure test them. So durability is not an issue either. They aren't just some thrown together piles of plastic. Besides, its kinda limiting to only use parts that fit exactly together, it limits the customization. There is no where I could use grommets except maybe connecting the bowl to the downstem or to the device itself. Besides, I consider a gidded perc with 80+ points of diffusion to be much more functional (and easier to make) than an 8+ arm tree perc with 2-3 slits per tree. If you can find a way to improve the "functionality" of these tree percs even more, be my guest.
haha well i choose to use plastic because its more durable and resilient to everyday life... but with all those hot glue seams one drop or hard knock and your piece is done, and it (hot glue) is not necessary if you can obtain a compression fit seal... inside or out. i can take my piece down to every single piece and back up to a full bong in minutes, this also allots replacement or scrubbing of individual pieces. as for diffusion its more than just the number of gridded slits... its a science... ratios of chamber sizes, order of drag coefficients on multiple diffusers... on one of your vids you can see your 80+ matrix doesn't even pull from the bottom slits... any thing pulling air from underwater is always gonna choose the path of least resistanse, and thats not the bottom of a two inch gridded matrix.... but with a perc, the section above the water evenly distributes the force between all the arms before being submerged. Lastly every different diffuser has a different smoke... inlines and showerheads being more airy while percs and such building thick smoke. By having compared all of the diffusers in the same volume and shape chamber i can then pick up the subtle differences between good and great. and i have found that after awhile to many slits does not improve diffusion.... I stop all my inlines at 7 or 9 slits because anymore and they have to much resistance compared to the first few... all my percs and squidlines at 2 per arm because of how much more resistance the lower slit has when the arm is submerged vertically. you say with out the glue it limits customization... so what are you building for; custom looks (borrowed from glass) or diffusion? -gh
my 135 grid homemade pillar uses almost all of the grids when clearing (barring like, one row.), and the top four rows (70+ diffusion points) when milking. dropped it too and it still hits like a champ with no air leaks. not sure why we're comparing apples to oranges here.
You dont have to explain to me how diffusers work, I have a good understanding of them. If you're such an expert with these, blow some glass. But you are approaching this like you are trying to teach me something, all of which I already know. I design my pieces to fire through almost every hole, with the exception of some that were just thrown together. Look at my newest piece, 80 holes on the stem, all firing easily. The upper perc, 50+ holes all firing. So I dont think I need taught on diffusion or the physics, ive gotten that figured out pretty well. Thanks though. And trust me, I could throw one of these down the stairs without them being "done", or broken at all for that better. Much less shatter proof than glass will ever be. (not that its superior though)
I'm personally much more worried about the burning plant material that's going into my lungs than any potential plastic fumes being released. If I was dabbin id be inclined to buy a real piece but if I'm smoking plant matter then imo what is the difference? Either way its unhealthy.
Got Homemade, I'm not sure why you have such a strong notion that anyone thinks your home made bong comes anywhere near these pieces. I mean it's better than most would make but really, it's like comparing Black Leaf to a Toro here. All that's really coming across here is your need to feel superior to someone. So please give it up, your not going to convince anyone that your little water bottle bong is better than anything sleepy's posted up here, no matter how much technobabble and nitpicking you do. Just stop, it's REALLY starting to get annoying.
"Potential plastic fumes," have been proven to cause cancer time and time again, that plant matter has not. Very true, sorry for the mistake
Those pics are awesome. By far the best plastic bongs i have ever seen +rep for the time and effort. For you haters PETE 1 plastic, which looks like what he used is safe. Over time it leaches into the water but who drinks bong water. Im sure there'll be thrown away by then anyway.
When smoke is brought in a bong, what does it go through? SMH@yougivingoneofthereasonsthatit'snotsafeinadvertently Also, that reinforces the point that plastics are not as chemically inert as glass. It doesn't just leach into water, but potentially other things. Not that you guys really care, as has already been pointed out.
Me i have an 12 in simple bong. Glass and im not going back to plastic just forward in GonG. But i was at a stage in life like that. Plastic for awhile.
